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Frank Kermit held a series of audio interviews from 2006 to 2007, which can be found on YouTube and on the media portion of the FrankTalks.com website. Mark Cunningham, a self-described renegade hypnotist who assists males with confidence, dating, and relationships, was one of those interviewed. The complete interview is transcribed here.
Mark Cunningham Interview by Frank
Mark discusses subjects such as in Part 1 of this six-part interview series.
How he came to be a hypnotist
Is hypnosis real?
What exactly is hypnosis?
The “frightening” aspects of hypnosis
Transcript:
Part 1 of 6 of the Mark Cunningham interview
Introduction: This show does not reflect the opinions of this station and may offend some listeners. This show may include mature content, such as candid discussions on challenging themes. It’s aimed for adult, open-minded audiences. Disregard is strongly encouraged.
Frank: You’re listening to Frank Talks Pleasures and Lifestyles, and I’m Frank because it’s necessary. On today’s program, we welcome Mark Cunningham, Renegade Hypnotist. He was one of the persons that helped create foundations in the seduction community, and he currently appears on Frank Talks Pleasure and Lifestyles. Mark, welcome to the studio.
Cunningham, Mark: Hello, Frank. How are things going for you?
Frank: All right, and I’ll begin with my first question, Mark. Where were you born, and tell me about your childhood and time in the military that lead you to being a hypnotist?
Cunningham, Mark: Actually, Frank, I’m a Midwestern American lad. I was born in Adrian, Michigan, not far from you, and spent my formative years there until high school.
Basically, I’m a timid, self-effacing, much too intelligent, physically undeveloped, nerdy and gawky American background. I did a long stint in the military. That is undeniably correct. Many people heard the stories that came out of that time, and after I rotated out of the military, I pursued various academic degrees at Michigan State University up to the Masters level before moving on to the corporate sector as a software architect. I finally left that job to become a full-time professional hypnotist.
Frank: What was your first exposure to hypnosis, for example, when you first saw it in action and thought, “Oh, this could be something I want to go into?”
Mark Cunningham: That’s a clever question because after I discovered what hypnosis was, it turns out I first met it at my mother’s knee.
My first official exposure to it was at university, where I had a full ride scholarship, so I rotated among all of the academic majors, being cautious not to complete one so that I could keep the scholarships.
I was in Psychology while going through ‘Ps,’ and I completed an internship with a psychiatrist on the faculty who worked in a huge VA hospital. The Veterans Administration Hospitals in the United States are government hospitals that serve only veterans of the armed services, and we were dealing with a number of Vietnam War veterans. We were dealing with Post-Horrific Stress Disorder, and he was doing some interesting stuff with hypnosis in terms of regressing back to traumatic incidents and shedding emotional charge so people could go on and live productive lives, as well as this one intriguing experiment on time dilation.
It was with the Detroit Police Department, so basically all of these cops who are all staff were running about sitting on their buttocks, sipping coffee, eating doughnuts, and then suddenly thrown into a life-or-death scenario. They would literally say “Shazzam” to themselves, and the entire world would slow down, as if it were in slow motion. And the cops would remain untouched, allowing them to carry on as usual. So, of course, they move at breakneck speed in real life.
“Oh my God, I’ve got to learn how to do this stuff,” I thought as I witnessed it in action.
Frank: Now, let’s go over some fundamentals. What exactly are we talking about when we talk about hypnosis? Is there a Major Mark definition of hypnosis?
Cunningham, Mark: Yes, there is such a thing as hypnosis, and it is divided into two sections. The first is that you create a mental condition in which you no longer make key judgments. That is, you aren’t passing judgment. You’re not saying whether anything is nice or terrible, whether it’s me or not, or whether it’s true or untrue. You’re just in a state where everything is equally experienced.
The establishment of acceptable selective focus is the second half of the conventional definition. That is to say, they are not distracted by anything and instead focus on whatever is causing the trance. But the reason this works is due to a mental principle known as disassociation, and all it is is our ability to use this supercharged human brain to perform various trains of thinking.
Some of these are closely tied to things we see in real life that are solid, that we can agree on, that we can call reality. Most of them are not, so with any hypnotic induction, we basically bump the subject off the track of consensual reality and move them into one of these disassociated streams of thought, so that all of a sudden they are off on something that appears compellingly real, just as real as anything else, but it is not actually real in the sense that anyone else may see, hear, or experience it.
Frank: I have a question for you right now.
Mark Cunningham: Sure thing.
Frank: One of the most common objections leveled towards hypnosis is that it does not function. It does not exist in reality. However, it is the person’s belief that they are hypnotized that allows the effects to occur. What are your thoughts on such statements?
Cunningham, Mark: So, let me offer you a two-part solution. The first is that we aren’t truly functioning on genuine objects in the first place. Consider everyone you know: your friends, your coworkers; they are all going through the world with their own unique mix of reality that no one else shares, and yet there is enough overlap that we can say, “OK, there is a span that we call consensual reality.”
But it’s all based on our own little interpretation of reality, and all hypnosis is is directing someone into a new version of that utterly made-up reality that fits the hypnotist’s aim.
The second point to mention is that hypnosis has been proven. There are several medical research being published right now. “Oh, see, when someone is “hypnotized,” you see that area of the brain that’s involved in processing ideas rationally just lights up significantly because that part has to work so much harder when a person is hypnotized.”
The hypnotist, on the other hand, can tell you from experience that, yes, that logical component is suspended and you transfer it into something called trance-logic, which is why you can speak to someone who is hypnotized into almost anything.
The concept that someone believes in it in the first place, and so hypnosis does not exist, is just someone who is following along with your suggestion. When you think about it, that meets the definition of hypnosis.
Frank: Okay, now we get to the terrifying parts of hypnosis.
Oh, fantastic. Mark Cunningham:
Frank: And now…
Mark Cunningham: I love it when a hypnotist talks on the radio about the terrifying aspects of hypnosis.
Frank: Okay, OK. Let’s see if we can find anything to pique the interest of our listeners. Where do the concepts of free will and responsibility for one’s own actions come in if people are so susceptible to hypnosis that they end up doing things they wouldn’t normally be or have the capacity to do if I’m attempting to hypnotize them and get them to strictly consider things they wouldn’t normally have considered?
Mark Cunningham: We remind all of our new pupils that no one who is hypnotized will do something that goes against their ethics or principles. In other words, even if someone is hypnotized, you cannot force them to do something they are unwilling to do.
That is a belief system ideal for novices, because we don’t want them to get overly experimental with this things. So when we tell them that, they head off, sure that they can’t possibly mess up anyone and that everything is good.
Now, in advanced lectures, we teach individuals that, sure, the first law, which states that you cannot force someone to do anything contrary to their belief systems or ethics, is correct. But there is a catch: hypnosis has a very powerful influence on belief systems, and if you know this technology really well and are sufficiently proficient and comfortable with it, you can in fact modify people’s belief systems dramatically. As a result, you can persuade them to do almost anything you can think of.
It’s not something you’d ordinarily do. It’s obviously not common in therapy, but you do work with belief systems, so when you get somebody to think they’re not a smoker, or that they can lose weight, or that they can love themselves for who they are. It’s similar to making individuals into criminals, changing their basic sexuality, or changing their ethics or morals, which is often done over time or when someone is physically isolated. There have been several studies on the use of hypnosis inside cults, for example, to demonstrate how this might be accomplished.
Mark Cunningham discusses in Part 2 of this six-part interview series
What is normal and what is insane?
Acquiescence is where hypnosis begins.
Influence lessons acquired in the military
Why do women find Mark fascinating?
Transcript:
Part 2 of 6 of the Mark Cunningham interview
Frank: So here’s a question: if someone has been so thoroughly hypnotized in a cult environment that they are committing acts of violence, to use one specific example, do you, as a professional hypnotist, believe that person is ultimately responsible for his own actions if he was hypnotized into behaving violently?
Mark Cunningham: The sympathetic answer is no, but someone has messed with their psyche. On the other side, you have non-cult members strolling around the street unaccompanied. We call them citizens, and they have been subjected to hypnotic programming since birth, yet we pretend that they are totally accountable for their acts.
So, in modern life, what we term normal or sane conduct is that which at least 50% of your social group thinks, and that’s basically the only foundation we have for what we consider sane or normal. This is how the majority of people feel about these issues.
So, somewhere in between, you may claim that if someone has been purposefully conditioned to do certain things, then their free will has been violated, but it’s also true that all hypnosis begins with acceptance. You can’t convince somebody into anything if there isn’t that initial instant of agreeing with the proposal.
Frank: I’d want to return to your military career.
Mark Cunningham: Sure thing.
Frank: I understand you can’t discuss some of those details. I do have a particular inquiry.
Yes, Mark Cunningham.
Frank: Did you witness any fighting? Were you really shooting a rifle?
Yes, Mark Cunningham.
Frank: Do you know whether you’ve ever murdered somebody while serving in the military?
Mark Cunningham: I know for a fact that there are a number of people that I murdered in war.
Frank: I find it really intriguing that in the present model of your life, you’re utilizing hypnosis to assist people live better lives and clean out some of the internal difficulties they may have. I’m interested whether you believe your military experience fueled or motivated your current lifestyle as a hypnotist who helps people.
Cunningham, Mark: Yes, yes, and yes in two ways. The first is that I believe I have some karma to pay off, and if spending the rest of my life helping people is what it takes, then that is exactly what will happen.
The second is that during my military career, I learned a great deal about controlling myself and influencing others, and I have learned to recycle, retask, and apply those skill sets and personal resources differently in order to address the challenge of knocking people out of their existing mindsets and teaching them a whole, new, and better way of living through life.
Frank: We’re going to take a break, Mark. When we return, we’ll have a conversation with Major Mark Cunningham on Frank Talks Pleasures and Lifestyles.
From 3:22 until 4:51, there is a commercial break.
Frank: You’re listening to Frank Talks Pleasures and Lifestyles, and I’m Frank because it’s necessary. Today I’m in the studio with Mark Cunningham. How are things going, Mark?
Cunningham, Mark: Frank, I’m doing very well.
Frank: So, I’d want to shift the focus of this conversation slightly and bring up the subject of the seduction community. When I was researching your products, I noticed that you always came across as a man who adored ladies. I don’t detect any form of sexism or hostility against women from you. You’ve even stated on few times that you adore ladies. You can’t seem to get enough of them. You consider them to be amazing.
Mark Cunningham: I believe they are a fantastic concept. Yes, I primarily work with women in my professional job, particularly in hypnosis.
I’ve completed over 18,000 session hours, at least 55% of which have been with women. So, for the past ten to twelve years, I’ve spent my days talking to women about how they move through their lives, what their concerns are, what their opportunities are, what their challenges are, what they need to become fully human, what life they need to feel feminine and sexy, and what they look for in a man.
To be honest, I enjoy the company of ladies. I mean, whenever I go to these suburban parties, and all the males are out front talking about lawn care, I’m in the kitchen with their wives because I like to spend my time with women.
Frank: I have two inquiries for you.
Mark Cunningham: Sure thing.
Frank: The first question I have is, when you say that the majority of your clientele are women, is that a conscious choice on your part or is it simply because in terms of the clientele you’re servicing, you just happen to be servicing a large clientele of women, and the second question I have is, with the amount of time that you spend with all these women, you must have a unique perspective on the way women think on their belief systems and generally you have a grasp for the female m What are your thoughts on those questions?
Cunningham, Mark: The first is that, in general, women are significantly more inclined than males to seek professional assistance. Stoics are the ladies. They are talkers, so if they have an issue in their lives and believe someone can help them, they will seek it out. So, in general, your therapy clients are women.
Beyond that, I like to deal with women, and really, males will come in and start talking about their neurotic half-assed, silly suburbia life, and where I’m happy to talk to women about it, I just want to smack them and say, “Grow a pair!” This is not something you can charge for. So, absolutely, I do seek them out.
Frank: Regarding…
Mark Cunningham: I’ve learnt to comport myself among ladies in ways that encourage them to open up. They are telling me the truth. They’ll sit down and talk to me as if I’m one of the females, but they never forget that I’m also a man.
It’s actually rather amusing. Almost all of my clients will hit on me, and all of the ladies I meet think I’m a fascinating person, and I’m not just saying this to brag. It’s just that I’ve learned to position myself as that man, and I’ve realized that once I get them to open up about themselves, the only sort of guy with whom they’ll be honest, sincere, and forthright is someone they can care truly about, and there I am.
Frank: Okay, here are two more questions for you. The first concerns your male clients.
Mark Cunningham: Sure thing.
Frank: How many of your male clients, in terms of a percentile, do you believe have a significant problem that would necessitate the services of a hypnotherapist or other form of therapy? And how many of them don’t seem to understand what it is to be a guy and tough it out?
Cunningham, Mark: You’re essentially discussing the same people in both categories. Anyone who is stuck, anyone who has a problem with their beliefs, actions, or emotions should definitely go find a competent hypnotist and talk about what’s possible because it makes perfect sense to seek help. Now.
Mark Cunningham discusses a variety of issues in Part 3 of this six-part interview series.
Romance stories conceal seduction secrets.
How to be the type of guy that women find appealing
Why do males need female friends?
The current seduction community’s flaws
Transcript:
Part 3 of 6 of the Mark Cunningham interview
Mark Cunningham: It’s also true… well, it’s my fact that contemporary man has no idea about sucking it up, developing on your own resources, stepping out of that resource deficient position, and simply getting the work done.
We have this thing in the military called preserving the mission, which means that no matter what happens or how much junk falls from heaven above, you still have to get the job done. They’d also drilled into our heads something I still live by: there may be reasons, but there are never excuses.
There is always some reason why you are not going as quickly, getting as far, or doing as much as you would want, but there is never an excuse; you simply pick yourself up and find another method to complete the task. So those two inquiries are essentially aimed at the same people.
Frank: Now you talk about what you do to become that guy, the sort of guy that women will open up to, the kind of guy that ladies will talk to as if you were one of the females, never forgetting that you are a man.
Oh yeah, Mark Cunningham.
Frank: Could you offer me some particular, something specific that a man can model, something specific that he can copy in order to become that guy to whom women will open up on that level?
Mark Cunningham: Actually, if you want the fast and dirty rule, walk down to your neighborhood bookshop and ask the clerks, “What’s your best selling romance title?” Take it home and attempt to figure out what they are on about. The first time you read it, it’s like a thin code, but as you walk through it and drink it up and try to comprehend from a woman’s point of view, you’ll discover that they’re all about males who they consider a big challenge.
He’s someone who is very masculine, someone who is on their way, has their own life, who doesn’t really need a woman, holding them at arm length, but also takes them very seriously and pays a lot of attention.
He’s someone who the woman can pour their heart out to and know that they are going to be treated fairly and openly. It’s not someone who is going to be catering to women. I mean, as soon as they’ve set conditions like one of the girls I’ve talked, “Oh, boy, the boys are going to understand or not going to understand that one.”
But the thing is women love to talk. They love to talk emotions. So they love to talk about themselves, and when they find a man who’s willing to listen, who remembers what it is they just said and feeds it back to them, they just go nuts. It’s like throwing raw meat in front of a Doberman.
Frank: Okay. So basically, read the romance novels and model the main top male characters there.
Mark Cunningham: That would certainly be a good start. You also want to get yourself a woman who is a friend, not someone who you are trying to drag off into bed, not someone you’re trying to scam, but someone who is actually going to talk to you, and she will tell you about clothes.
She will talk to you about how to talk to women, what’s important. She will tell you which women are good for you, which aren’t, which ones are really available as opposed to the ones who say they are available or say they are not available. I mean, once a guy gets at least one good female friend, he’s definitely on his way.
Frank: Female friends, a real point of tension here for a number of men because they have lots of female friends who they end up falling in love with, who just keeps saying, “No, I just want to be your friend,” or getting rejected.
Some seduction gurus have certain attitudes that there is no such thing as a female friend. Other seduction gurus talk about how a female friend is one who helps you meet other women, otherwise, she’s not your friend. The word “female friend,” when I say that though, that combination of words to you, what do you think about?
Mark Cunningham: I’m thinking about buddies. I mean, I have female friends who like to watch football with me. I have female friends who like to hang out and run errands with me on Saturday. I have female friends who like to have me come over and we will both cook dinner together. I mean, there are all kinds of things that I do with these girls, and there is a certain, what, what’s the word, a persona, a little zing of excitement, because there is always that possibility. But I’m not pursuing them and I don’t know a lot of them to pursue me.
Well, I can just enjoy being a man around them. They could enjoy being a woman around me, and it’s just understood the don’t poach on those friendships. I mean, you basically don’t want to screw up a friendship with one of your guy friends, why would you want to screw up a friendship with one of your girl friends?
Instead maybe you should listen to what she says and look around and realize that there are untold billions other women walking around, many of them will probably be interested in you if you just got out of your own way.
Frank: I got an open ended question for you here, Mark.
Mark Cunningham: Yeah.
Frank: No holds barred, without having to mention any specific names, what is your opinion of the modern seduction community?
Mark Cunningham: Well, it’s amazingly lucrative, isn’t it? I mean, it appears to be huge. It appears to be an unceasing demand for advice to guys on how to handle this whole seduction thing.
I find it kind of surprising. I find many of the approaches that I’ve seen out there are very mechanistic. They seemed to be not only techniques that you do to women. The more advanced ones are things that you do with women or they are phrased as you do these things with women.
But for the most part, they appear to be designed to recreate in you the kind of person that the instructor is, to recreate within your current life the life experience of the seduction instructor. It’s like they are out there trying to clone themselves and say, “If you do these things, well, then you will experience my level of success.”
Well, it’s kind of like watching these late night real estate seminars on TV, “If you just follow my magical plan, you too can live on a beach in Maui.” Well, maybe you can, but there is a very low probability of desirable outcome. I don’t see enough of what I think actually works which is help on changing yourself to be the kind of guy that women find attractive.
Frank: You talk a lot about this in your work, and we are going to get back to this. Sorry, I’m getting the signal we got to go to commercial.
Mark Cunningham: Okay.
Frank: When we come back, I would like you to talk about some of your transformation work.
Mark Cunningham: Oh, sure.
Frank: All right, you’re listening to Frank Talks Pleasures and Lifestyles.
[Commercial Break from 00:07:08 to end of audio]
End Of Part 3
In part 4 of this six-part interview series Mark covers topics such as
Changing yourself is more attractive to women
Why Bringing your old self to new scenarios doesn’t work
Why you need new belief systems that will work for you
Rehearsing change in trance work
In order to make big changes, your life must be stable
Transcript:
Mark Cunningham interview Part 4 of 6
Frank Kermit: You’re listening to Frank Talks Pleasures and Lifestyles, and I’m Frank because I have to be. In studio today with Mark Cunningham. How are you doing there, Mark?
Mark Cunningham: I’m doing pretty well.
Frank Kermit: All right, in the last interview segment, we were talking about some of the work that you do with your transformation work. Rather than be a seduction instructor who’s trying to create clones of themselves, you’re actually helping the men involved change or unchange certain parts of themselves to become more attractive men overall.
Mark Cunningham: That’s right.
Frank Kermit: Can you tell me a little bit about your transformation work and some of the products that you have?
Mark Cunningham: Okay, yeah. My interest to seduction community is something. I developed this approach when I was working with one of the greats in the seduction community, Ross Jeffries, and he and Russell was kind enough to invite me out to appear on his seminars for over about a 6 or 6-1/2 year span. We got a lot of fun working together.
Our approaches are different, which probably why we had so much fun working together, and I learned from talking to thousands and thousands of these seminar attendees that their struggle was not so much with understanding technique, memorizing lines, figuring out approaches, learning where to go, what to wear and things like that.
But rather they were continually struggling with the problem. They kept bringing their old self into new scenarios and expecting that just by mouthing words or using some kind of techniques that they were going to get good results, and of course, that’s not what occurs.
So I did go off and I developed my own seduction seminar, which I only gave a couple of times because my whole philosophy is give it straight, deliver it and give it on tape and then go off and do something more extreme with my life.
So we did this class called Beyond Seduction, which was the distilled essence of my techniques. It’s a conditioning seminar on how do you change yourself to become the kind of guy that women find naturally seductive. Because I have the lazy man’s approach to seduction. I think I ought to be able to walk into kind of setting, look around and not only be attractive to a broad cross section of women, but to be able to spot the ones that were attracted to me and be able to concentrate on them and kind of pick the low hanging fruit.
We do have a separate track, of course, which is my mainstream hypnosis track where we have classes like the introduction of Marknosis class. It’s a set of conditioning exercises that you can do every day to ensure that you go ahead and you clear out your emotional deadwood, you remove the trauma or limitation of your self-sabotage that came out of your past.
You get focused on what you actually want to do with the belief systems that will work for you, and we show you how that you can go through a process where you ensure that you stay on course every day, and I like it with the goals that you can dream up now, but turning into the kind of person that has an ever increasing, ever improving set of goals.
Frank Kermit: Of all the products that you have, if somebody wanted to start today and say, “Mark, I don’t know where I should start, between your products and all the other products out there, what would you recommend as a great starting place?”
Mark Cunningham: Well, people look at all the products I have available and go, “Oh my God, how am I suppose to pick something even with your own product line?”
We have this thing called Hypnotic Awakenings, which is a relatively brief CD set. I think it’s three CDs, and what it does is it’s a presentation on how to identify the imprint that you got, through no faults of your own. All the well meaning people who gave you advice or direction along your life ended up filling your head with full of crap. I’ll show you how to identify all these imprints, how to break those imprints so that you can, not only free yourself from that self-sabotage, but also take all the energy that’s freed up and start to apply it through a six-step process where you can go ahead and get your life stable, in order.
Because frankly, Frank, no one makes serious change in their life until you had a relatively stable moment.
I mean, I get these heart rending calls where people say, “Oh, my God, I’m down to like my last $10 and I’m living out of my car with one package of ramen and noodles. You know, what can you tell m
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